[Negativepitch]

Myself and a few others also had the same problems on our tiguans which was a nightmare in stop start traffic going up hill.
The clutch felt so light.
When I rejected ours I changed the car to a dsg.

 

[Jabbafumi]

Same engine, 1.5 TSI 150 mated to a manual gearbox?

 

[TJCymru]

Re:1.5 EVO- 1st gear kangaroo plus hesitations at times when slowing down.
I've had this car since april 2018 and its driving me crazy. Been back to the dealership on umpteen occasions but no joy. I'm considering selling it.

 

[TJCymru]

Re: 1.5 EVO-1st gear kangaroo plus occasional hesitations when slowing down.
Bought this car in april 2018 and its driving me nuts, been to dealership umpteen times but no joy. I am considering selling it soon.

T-Roc SEL with park assist.

 

[Negativepitch]

Sorry to sound a bit thick here.
Is this just on the 1.5
I have got so used to driving an auto now but our budget will not stretch that far.

 

[TurboTrev]

Sorry to sound a bit thick here.
Is this just on the 1.5
I have got so used to driving an auto now but our budget will not stretch that far.

It only seems to be the 1.5tsi evo with a manual gearbox that has the problems.

 

[Steve]

I have had a 1.5 tsi EVO since july and have not had a problem.It drives like a dream.

 

[Bellasdad]

I have had a 1.5 tsi EVO since july and have not had a problem.It drives like a dream.

Same here, good as gold, not the slightest hint of the kangaroo syndrome.

 

[Troc2018]

If you look on you tube you will find lots of t-roc reviews mostly saying what a good car it is
If you look for bob flavin car tester in Ireland he tests a couple of t rocks , when he drives the
1.5 manual one in blue he complains how bad the 1st gear is just like many new owners are complaining about ,
There has to be a problem there that vw are keeping quiet about but the funny thing is it's not on all the cars lots of owners say theirs is ok

 

[Ednabucket]

Lets keep this in perspective, I've just watched the Bob Flavin review and he mentions the odd power delivery but I didn't hear him complain about how "bad" it was.
Just for the record I have a 1.5 manual sel, and yes, it is different to my 2.0 tdi Octavia but its certainly not bad.
oh and sorry for not introducing myself first.

 

[UnhappyHusband]

This thread reminds me of the "clutch delay valve" threads on Seat Leon / Golf forums.

VW introduced an extra delay between the clutch pedal and the clutch, to allow drivers to treat the clutch like an on/off thing, and just mash the pedals and gears quickly.

You can remove the valve (simple job) or learn to drive again, basically with a complete lack of mechanical sympathy.

On my 1.4 tsi Leon it takes practice to cleanly pull away. Full off clutch, then on the throttle.

I wonder if it's the same thing contributing to the kangaroo problem.

Mk7 golf example: https://www.autoinstruct.com.au/manufacturer/volkswagen/mk7-golf/mk7-golf-clutch-delay-valve-removal/

 

[Negativepitch]

Sorry to sound a bit thick here.
Is this just on the 1.5
I have got so used to driving an auto now but our budget will not stretch that far.

It only seems to be the 1.5tsi evo with a manual gearbox that has the problems.

Thanks very much.

 

[Jabbafumi]

Based on the feedback here, it does seem to impact some cars more than others, mine was awful. According to my dealer, the factory have acknowledged there is a known problem and are working on a solution. How long that will take is anybody's guess.

BTW, I got ride of the T-Roc, it was only 3 weeks old, VW can keep it.

 

[Guest]

Fingers crossed our 1.5 evo with manual box seems much better in first gear following a software update yesterday.

 

[Jonavon]

Hi was the update for the problem or is this coincidence that it has helped

 

[Guest]

The car was in for another unrelated problem but I did explain that 1st gear was very difficult at times and that I wished them to ensure that I had the latest software.

I also said that if the Kangaroo behaviour continued I would reject the car. The dealer did say that mine was not the first car with the problem and tgat previous updates had not worked, so I left with not much confidence.

But; as I mentioned my car is now much better.

I have since emailed the dealer asking if some or all of tge software was designed to fix the issue.

I will let you know what they say.

 

[Jabbafumi]

I'd be very interested to see what they say about the software update. My understanding of the problem is that a solution is beyond a simple software fix and more mechanical.

The 1.5 TSI uses a miller cycle engine, which basically means the inlet valves are opened on the combustion stroke. Mechanical engineering states that compression would be lost with the inlet valves open on the combustion stroke and the engine will stall. However, in the miller cycle motor they use the turbo to create back pressure during the combustion stroke, this allows up to 15% more combustion and therefore more torque and power with better economy.

The 1.5 TSI's turbo is designed to spool up at very low RPM, around 1000rpm, as we know turbo's work off exhaust gases. So, when you pull away, the revs drop, the turbo stops spooling, the back pressure drops and the car tries to stall, the result - kangarooing.

The Miller cycle engine works perfectly with a DSG as the car is able to control the clutch, gear, throttle position etc. in a manual car, this is not the case.

my 10p's worth.

 

[Newtroconthebloc]

Great info, the solution does not seem to be easy.
Ah got it,
They need to add a steering wheel mounted straw you blow down whilst pulling away !
Sorry, I'm sure I won't be joking when I get mine and it does it.

 

[My Red One]

Thank you that is worth a lot more than 10p

 

[Newtroconthebloc]

'I haven't got mine yet but is there traction control or something similar?
If so can it be disabled to rule out it being a cause
Just a thought'
I've posted above twice before, has anyone tried ?