any one else had the problem of a 1.5 r line manual petrol cutting out when slowing down for a junction or slowing down in traffic with the stop start activated a quick flick of ignition key starts the engine the vw dealer checked the problem but nothing could be found car going in for first service this week so any advise please
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I still cut out now and again even though I only use E5, but I’m usually in the wrong gear ( manual ) and by now I’ve learnt to just dip the clutch and the thing restarts itself straight away, no drama nowadays.
But pretty much this is self inflicted with me being in the wrong gear.
Probably not helped by the gear change between first and second/second and first not being a perfect shift, so I often try to get away with staying in second gear when I should have dropped down to first.
Something doesn’t feel right with my first and second gear linkage, never has done, but I just put it down to being a ‘characteristic’ of the vehicle.
It doesn’t do it all the time, sometimes it’s smooth, other times it’s quite notchy.
Outside the vehicle the linkage is notably noisy when changing through the gears with the engine off.
If it weren’t for the cover underneath I’d have crawled under there to have a look by now, though we did have someone else at work with a manual 1.5 petrol Style the same as mine, several months older, and his was exactly the same, which is what made me think it’s just the way it is.
I’d welcome anyone else’s experience of first and second gear shift in a manual 1.5 petrol Style.
But pretty much this is self inflicted with me being in the wrong gear.
Probably not helped by the gear change between first and second/second and first not being a perfect shift, so I often try to get away with staying in second gear when I should have dropped down to first.
Something doesn’t feel right with my first and second gear linkage, never has done, but I just put it down to being a ‘characteristic’ of the vehicle.
It doesn’t do it all the time, sometimes it’s smooth, other times it’s quite notchy.
Outside the vehicle the linkage is notably noisy when changing through the gears with the engine off.
If it weren’t for the cover underneath I’d have crawled under there to have a look by now, though we did have someone else at work with a manual 1.5 petrol Style the same as mine, several months older, and his was exactly the same, which is what made me think it’s just the way it is.
I’d welcome anyone else’s experience of first and second gear shift in a manual 1.5 petrol Style.
Yes have been out with the technician and it didn’t cut out surprise surprise 🤔he suggested that I record it next time it happens how do I do that whilst driving and obviously never know when it is going to happen my partner wont drive it now as she is frightened it will cut out on her this is my 1st VW and probably my last unfortunately
I guess you’ve discovered not to reach for the key to restart it by now and that it’ll just do it itself ?
That used to cause me the biggest drama, attempting to turn it off and on again when it was itself trying to restart. I used to get into a right pickle trying to do that.
I just dip the clutch nowadays and it restarts straight away, took some getting used to though.
That used to cause me the biggest drama, attempting to turn it off and on again when it was itself trying to restart. I used to get into a right pickle trying to do that.
I just dip the clutch nowadays and it restarts straight away, took some getting used to though.
That really does sound like it is the auto Stop/Start feature which is operating even though (I think) it still does it with Stop/Start supposedly switched off.
Have you considered any of the methods for permanently disabling Stop/Start ?
Nah, doesn’t bother me that often, and I am usually in too high a gear when it happens.
Got used to it now.
Been driving two litre VW diesels for too many years and they’re very forgiving for being in too high a gear, they’ll just pull through I find.
Got used to it now.
Been driving two litre VW diesels for too many years and they’re very forgiving for being in too high a gear, they’ll just pull through I find.
@Michael Weston mines a 2018 & yes a wee bit notchy 1st to 2nd & 2nd to 1st,as you said probably a characteristic 👌
As for owners engines cutting out, being a manual it's a car that can be stalled easily and not easily noticed as the engine is quite quiet 🤔
As for owners engines cutting out, being a manual it's a car that can be stalled easily and not easily noticed as the engine is quite quiet 🤔
A good old fashioned stall is something that happens due to the mechanics and physics of the engine, but I wonder if VW have implemented some sort of engine 'protection' with a manual box which invokes the Stop/Start feature even when the driver has disabled it. Although, as previously mentioned, I can't understand how the engine can stop on a car fitted with a manual box without locking the wheels and bringing the car to a sudden stop. Doesn't the Stop/Start on a manual car only work when the clutch is disengaged or the box is in neutral ?
Perhaps this engine 'cutting out' only happens below a certain speed, when the clutch is depressed (and the foot brake pressed) so the car thinks you are about to stop.
The equivalent on a DSG is that the car will automatically shift down to a lower gear if the revs drop too low, but a car with a manual box can't do this.
Trying to think what happens when it occurs, I think the engine cuts out, I’m still in second gear rolling with the clutch engaged but not juddering at all, just rolling forward under load, so more of a stall I would say, I definitely don’t have the clutch pedal depressed when it cuts out, and I don’t think it’s fires up again until I dip the clutch.. I think..
It’s almost as if it can’t start unless you take the transmission load off the engine. If that makes sense.
I’ll try and be more aware of exactly what happens next time it occurs.
It’s almost as if it can’t start unless you take the transmission load off the engine. If that makes sense.
I’ll try and be more aware of exactly what happens next time it occurs.
You've lost me a bit there.
Perhaps you have the terminology the wrong way round. A clutch is engaged when the clutch pedal is not depressed, and is not engaged (or disengaged) when the pedal is depressed.
You said you are in second gear rolling without the clutch engaged which implies the clutch pedal is depressed and there won't be any juddering as you are effectively free wheeling, just as if you had put the box into neutral, and the engine can stop.
So did you actually mean 'in second gear rolling with the clutch engaged' (ie the clutch pedal is NOT depressed), in which case the engine will judder and perhaps stall if the revs are too low.
I’ve edited my original post now, have I got it right ? 🙃
Doesn't really help identify the reason for the cutting out issue though.
I still think there is some connection between the engine cutting out and the Stop/Start system. It seems too much of a coincidence otherwise.
Probably VW or at least the garage technicians don't fully understand the Stop/Start operation in all scenarios, especially if this is some quirk (ie a bug) in the system.
In my case, Stop/Start seldom operates as my battery is probably always below optimum due to short journeys, but it does work for a time after a long run although only after the car has come to a complete halt and it does depend on how long and how hard I keep my foot on the brake pedal. And this all might be quite different on a 2019 DSG.
I still think there is some connection between the engine cutting out and the Stop/Start system. It seems too much of a coincidence otherwise.
Probably VW or at least the garage technicians don't fully understand the Stop/Start operation in all scenarios, especially if this is some quirk (ie a bug) in the system.
In my case, Stop/Start seldom operates as my battery is probably always below optimum due to short journeys, but it does work for a time after a long run although only after the car has come to a complete halt and it does depend on how long and how hard I keep my foot on the brake pedal. And this all might be quite different on a 2019 DSG.
exacly the same happened to my vw passat bluemotion diesel manual ,cut about 6/7 times in 3 weeks ,very nervy went in vw and replaced the keyless fob in the dash ..2 days later pulling out at a roundabout, went into 2nd gear revved up and ......cut out ....
car behind nearly rearended us (wife in front ,child in the back)
went directly to the dealer raging ,told them in front of customers ,to stick it as far as it will go.they agreed it was a possible danger,and i traded it in for a golf with no problems ......so never did find a cure .
car behind nearly rearended us (wife in front ,child in the back)
went directly to the dealer raging ,told them in front of customers ,to stick it as far as it will go.they agreed it was a possible danger,and i traded it in for a golf with no problems ......so never did find a cure .
Just had a new 24 plate Tiguan cut out in front of me at a junction.
Driver in a right pickle trying to restart it.
Driver in a right pickle trying to restart it.
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has anyone had this problem solved both my May 23 reg and friends Dec 72 plate both have same fault ! 72 plate car has been serviced by VW derby and raised complaint but no fault found by garage,my 23 plate in for service soon and hope fault could be cured
I’ve learned to live with it, to quote a phrase that’s been bandied around these parts it’s perhaps just a ‘characteristic of the vehicle’
I’ve found that it always restarts itself straight away if I just dip the clutch, which is fine when you know what to do when it occurs, it’s when it catches you unawares that causes people issues.
I’d be surprised if VW ever do anything to address it.
I’ve found that it always restarts itself straight away if I just dip the clutch, which is fine when you know what to do when it occurs, it’s when it catches you unawares that causes people issues.
I’d be surprised if VW ever do anything to address it.
I have had my 1.5 manual for 3 days and it has cut out 3 times when slowing down in neutral/not in gear for traffic lights.(using the engine break). I tried to repeat this a few times but could not get it to stall. In all cases my stop start is disengaged. Usually this happens in fast traffic, I put my foot fully down on the clutch and turn the ignition key (prey) and it starts. I have a feeling it's something to do with the start stop system and maybe the way I drive using the engine break on the troc which feels and appears none exist compared to other cars I have driven.
Don’t touch the key, that’s where it all goes wrong, just dip the clutch, that’s all it needs.
My Auto Stop/Start is in its default ( on ? ) setting, not sure if the dipping the clutch thing works if it’s not.
As for engine braking/changing down, I’ve come from driving two litre TDI’s for the past twenty years and have always used engine braking when changing down, but you’re right, it’s almost not a thing anymore on a modern TSI 1.5 petrol.
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