T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Impala » Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:40 pm

SPT wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:03 pm
Are R lines nearly 40k now, if so that's just plain ridiculous, I thought the R was mad enough!
The 'basic' 1.5 TSI manual R-Line OTR price is £29,030, add DSG and that rises to £30,855.

The 2.0 TDI (diesel) manual R-Line is £31,695, and with DSG rises to £33,525.

The 2.0 TSI R-Line is only available as DSG and 4Motion and the basic price is £36,965.

Metallic paint adds another £625, and once you start adding other options like panoramic sunroof (£1,165), keyless (£400), electric tailgate (£340), Beats (£430) you can easily reach the £40k mark for a 2.0 TSI R-Line.
1.5 TSI DSG R-Line Indium Grey, rear view camera, park assist.
Ordered 22/06/18
Built w/c 25/03/19 :(
With dealer 13/05/19 :P
Collected 20/05/19 :D

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by vernerbongo2 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:06 pm

Impala wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:40 pm
SPT wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:03 pm
Are R lines nearly 40k now, if so that's just plain ridiculous, I thought the R was mad enough!
The 'basic' 1.5 TSI manual R-Line OTR price is £29,030, add DSG and that rises to £30,855.

The 2.0 TDI (diesel) manual R-Line is £31,695, and with DSG rises to £33,525.

The 2.0 TSI R-Line is only available as DSG and 4Motion and the basic price is £36,965.

Metallic paint adds another £625, and once you start adding other options like panoramic sunroof (£1,165), keyless (£400), electric tailgate (£340), Beats (£430) you can easily reach the £40k mark for a 2.0 TSI R-Line.
I take it that can push you into a higher road tax fund 🤔
Manual 1.5 petrol R-line revenna blue with black roof/wing mirrors, mud flaps, towbar.
September 2018 :P

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by twist » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:11 pm

Impala wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:40 pm
SPT wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:03 pm
Are R lines nearly 40k now, if so that's just plain ridiculous, I thought the R was mad enough!
The 'basic' 1.5 TSI manual R-Line OTR price is £29,030, add DSG and that rises to £30,855.

The 2.0 TDI (diesel) manual R-Line is £31,695, and with DSG rises to £33,525.

The 2.0 TSI R-Line is only available as DSG and 4Motion and the basic price is £36,965.

Metallic paint adds another £625, and once you start adding other options like panoramic sunroof (£1,165), keyless (£400), electric tailgate (£340), Beats (£430) you can easily reach the £40k mark for a 2.0 TSI R-Line.
You’re 100% correct but I t should also be pointed out that RRP is pretty much meaningless except when calculating VED. It’s the deal that matters. You should subtract around 10% from the RRP and that’s what kind of deal you should be aiming for. Or close to 15% if going with the manufacturer’s PCP or similar financing.

Only mugs pay list price!
1.5 DSG R-line in Indium Grey
Keyless, park assist, rear view cam, driver assist pack plus, lumbar support
Ordered: 11/12/19 / Collected 20/03/20

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by twist » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:13 pm

vernerbongo2 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:06 pm

I take it that can push you into a higher road tax fund 🤔
Absolutely. And that’s why the government need to go back to the emissions-based tiers.
1.5 DSG R-line in Indium Grey
Keyless, park assist, rear view cam, driver assist pack plus, lumbar support
Ordered: 11/12/19 / Collected 20/03/20

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Impala » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:40 pm

twist wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:11 pm
You’re 100% correct but I t should also be pointed out that RRP is pretty much meaningless except when calculating VED. It’s the deal that matters. You should subtract around 10% from the RRP and that’s what kind of deal you should be aiming for. Or close to 15% if going with the manufacturer’s PCP or similar financing.

Only mugs pay list price!

That's a bit over simplistic.

I seriously doubt many buyers will get anywhere close to those discounts, especially those willing to put up with long lead times rather than walk away. It's much harder to get a deal on a customised factory build rather than buying a car on the forecourt or sitting in a showroom or dealer's compound but perhaps loaded with expensive options you don't really want or need. If you are willing to buy a car from stock, then you can probably get a good deal by simply saying I'll take that one today, right now, if you give me a good discount and walking away if they don't, but just remember the extra profit in those options may be what is financing the discount.

Then there are many dealers who say they are giving a better trade-in allowance rather than showing it as a discount, so if you have no trade-in you are in a better position, unless you have to go through the hassle and stress of trying to do a private sale. Been there, done that !

So it depends on what you are looking for and what premium you are prepared to pay to get the exact car you want as opposed to looking for a close fit. Most people will accept having some 'extras' they might not have chosen, but the lack of a 'must have' option can also be a deal breaker for some, and more who spend their ownership saying I wish my car had X, Y or Z.
1.5 TSI DSG R-Line Indium Grey, rear view camera, park assist.
Ordered 22/06/18
Built w/c 25/03/19 :(
With dealer 13/05/19 :P
Collected 20/05/19 :D

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Fidds t roc » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:34 pm

R line tested, ride fine not any harder.
great offer for my car so have purchased the R line tsi dsg 4 motion 2.0 ltr sel but lots of extas , some very good, some not what i would have ordered but will help when resale time comes.
car has stone chips etc but when you make big savings and quick changeover time it is to be expected.
so my near 3 year old sel tsi 4 motion will now be replaced with a 5 week old R line with extras and 3 years more trouble free motoring inc 2 years servicing etc.
well pleased
picking car up next week in changeover, who ever buys my car will get a good deal, its immaculate and only has 16k on the clock
have a good weekend

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by twist » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:13 pm

Impala wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:40 pm
twist wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:11 pm
You’re 100% correct but I t should also be pointed out that RRP is pretty much meaningless except when calculating VED. It’s the deal that matters. You should subtract around 10% from the RRP and that’s what kind of deal you should be aiming for. Or close to 15% if going with the manufacturer’s PCP or similar financing.

Only mugs pay list price!

That's a bit over simplistic.

I seriously doubt many buyers will get anywhere close to those discounts, especially those willing to put up with long lead times rather than walk away. It's much harder to get a deal on a customised factory build rather than buying a car on the forecourt or sitting in a showroom or dealer's compound but perhaps loaded with expensive options you don't really want or need. If you are willing to buy a car from stock, then you can probably get a good deal by simply saying I'll take that one today, right now, if you give me a good discount and walking away if they don't, but just remember the extra profit in those options may be what is financing the discount.

Then there are many dealers who say they are giving a better trade-in allowance rather than showing it as a discount, so if you have no trade-in you are in a better position, unless you have to go through the hassle and stress of trying to do a private sale. Been there, done that !

So it depends on what you are looking for and what premium you are prepared to pay to get the exact car you want as opposed to looking for a close fit. Most people will accept having some 'extras' they might not have chosen, but the lack of a 'must have' option can also be a deal breaker for some, and more who spend their ownership saying I wish my car had X, Y or Z.
I don’t think it’s simplistic at all - both of my T-Rocs were factory orders and heavily discounted (SEL: 13% off, R-line: 15% off) and very much influenced which dealership I bought from. You absolutely do get discounts like this if you’re prepared to walk away and shop around, play dealerships against each other, etc. and for saving of thousands, it’s absolutely worth doing if you have the time. Admittedly I had the hassle of it being 200/300 miles away but I consider the trade-off worth it.

Manufacturers overinflate RRPs so that dealerships can offer discounts making customers feel like they got a good deal. Therefore if you don’t get a discount close to what I mentioned, I’d say you’ve paid more than you needed to.
1.5 DSG R-line in Indium Grey
Keyless, park assist, rear view cam, driver assist pack plus, lumbar support
Ordered: 11/12/19 / Collected 20/03/20

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Fidds t roc » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm

Slight change of direction.
When I did test drive I noticed the R line had paddles for gear change, not on the extras list so assume they are std.
Any comments from R owners?

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Hawkeye » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 pm

Fidds t roc wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm
Slight change of direction.
When I did test drive I noticed the R line had paddles for gear change, not on the extras list so assume they are std.
Any comments from R owners?
Paddles are standard on the R-Line 2.0
R-Line 2.0TSi DSG 4MOTION
Silver White with Black Roof
Panoramic Sunroof
'Beats' Sound system
Electric Tailgate
Rear View Camera
Park Assist
Driver Assistance Pack Plus

Ordered 20-10-18
Collected 19-03-19

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Re: T roc 2.0 tsi SEL dsg 4 motion 2 .5 years old CHANCE TO IT.

Post by Fidds t roc » Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:05 pm

Thanks hawkeye.
The car is purchased pick up next week.
1100 miles on the clock 5 weeks old.
20 plate

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After picking up will have driver passenger windows tinted and a full ceramic coating and internal fabric protection installed by a local detailer.

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