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Re: Full Detail

Post by T Roo » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:09 pm

Tigermad wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:30 pm
So the last 2 new cars I have had I haven’t let the dealer detail them in any way. They just remove the white film so I can check for obvious damage. I then remove the transport wax and apply various products when I get home. Same when I get a service, no wash allowed. Does anyone else not let the dealers wash their beloved?
I've always been happy to get the free wash at service time but I'm not so sure now :? .

In days gone by, I've had motorcycles that I would spend days on polishing but I've never felt the same urge to mollycoddle my cars.

Thing is though, cars look so much better when they're gleaming so that Maguiars ceramic wax is starting to look very tempting :shock: I do think that the less contact there is between cloth and paint the better so a spray on product with a light buffing seems a good shout to me.

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Re: Full Detail

Post by Newtroconthebloc » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:27 pm

T Roo wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:09 pm
Tigermad wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:30 pm
So the last 2 new cars I have had I haven’t let the dealer detail them in any way. They just remove the white film so I can check for obvious damage. I then remove the transport wax and apply various products when I get home. Same when I get a service, no wash allowed. Does anyone else not let the dealers wash their beloved?
I've always been happy to get the free wash at service time but I'm not so sure now :? .

In days gone by, I've had motorcycles that I would spend days on polishing but I've never felt the same urge to mollycoddle my cars.

Thing is though, cars look so much better when they're gleaming so that Maguiars ceramic wax is starting to look very tempting :shock: I do think that the less contact there is between cloth and paint the better so a spray on product with a light buffing seems a good shout to me.
Yes I agree but it’s got to be clean in the first place.
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Re: Full Detail

Post by T Roo » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:18 pm

Newtroconthebloc wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:27 pm
Yes I agree but it’s got to be clean in the first place.
Oh absolutely. If the car isn't filthy I reckon this ought to do it for most people:
1. pre-rinse
2. jet wash
3. shampoo (using microfibre lightly)
4. rinse
5. dry (microfibre, don't rub)
6. maguiars ceramic
7. rinse
8. dry (with microfibre gently)

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Re: Full Detail

Post by Troc2018 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:39 pm

Canterbury vw have been servicing our cars for at least 5 years and the after service wash & Hoover has always been terrible
How hard is it to clean a car & alloy wheels
Complaining has always been pointless "
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Re: Full Detail

Post by T Roo » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:30 am

Troc2018 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:39 pm
Canterbury vw have been servicing our cars for at least 5 years and the after service wash & Hoover has always been terrible
How hard is it to clean a car & alloy wheels
Complaining has always been pointless "
Annoying. It's missing the point I know but I suppose as owners we're always likely to do a better job.

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Re: Full Detail

Post by Tigermad » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:28 am

T Roo wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:30 am
Troc2018 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:39 pm
Canterbury vw have been servicing our cars for at least 5 years and the after service wash & Hoover has always been terrible
How hard is it to clean a car & alloy wheels
Complaining has always been pointless "
Annoying. It's missing the point I know but I suppose as owners we're always likely to do a better job.
Its not the fact that we would do a better job, most dealers inflict swirl marks on paintwork with the process they use and would need paint correct to try and get these removed. I have seen manual car washes drop their cleaning rags on the floor and carry on using them, They also leave the wet rags drying on walls so this picks up the debris and scratches your car. I always tell my dealers not to touch my cars to avoid this happening.

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Re: Full Detail

Post by T Roo » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:45 pm

Tigermad wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:28 am
Its not the fact that we would do a better job, most dealers inflict swirl marks on paintwork with the process they use and would need paint correct to try and get these removed. I have seen manual car washes drop their cleaning rags on the floor and carry on using them, They also leave the wet rags drying on walls so this picks up the debris and scratches your car. I always tell my dealers not to touch my cars to avoid this happening.
Eww, swirls and debris. Think I’ll follow your example and tell them to keep their hands off in future.

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Re: Full Detail

Post by Hawkeye » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:35 am

Tigermad wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:28 am
T Roo wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:30 am
Troc2018 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:39 pm
Canterbury vw have been servicing our cars for at least 5 years and the after service wash & Hoover has always been terrible
How hard is it to clean a car & alloy wheels
Complaining has always been pointless "
Annoying. It's missing the point I know but I suppose as owners we're always likely to do a better job.
Its not the fact that we would do a better job, most dealers inflict swirl marks on paintwork with the process they use and would need paint correct to try and get these removed. I have seen manual car washes drop their cleaning rags on the floor and carry on using them, They also leave the wet rags drying on walls so this picks up the debris and scratches your car. I always tell my dealers not to touch my cars to avoid this happening.
I agree. And it’s not just dealers either, it’s us - the owners - who inflict most swirls on paintwork.

Many believe that it’s the polishes that are used that cause swirling. Whilst there is some merit to this discussion, as Tigermad says, it’s what is used to apply polishes But more what we use to wash the car that causes swirls. Biggest offender in this category? Sponges!

If, as many drivers do, you just wash the car, do invest in a decent good quality wash mit, Meguiars do one (which you can get from Halfords generally), costs about £16, but it is an investment. The reason wash mits work better than sponges is that they don’t trap the particles of dirt when washing a car anywhere near as much as what sponges do. So significantly less swirling in the paintwork. I generally spray my car over with cold water from the hosepipe to remove loose dirt before washing the car, then wash using the 2 bucket method (one bucket with suds, and one with clean water - so you apply the suds, then wash out the mit in the clean water before dipping back in the suds bucket fir your next application - that way any grit you may have caught in the wash mit drops off in the water bucket, not in your suds bucket, so every application is “clean”. And again helps reduce swirls.

Polishing can cause swirls, again caused predominantly by what we use to apply and wipe off with, not what we use as a polish. Ceramic polishes and sealants are a further aid to helping stop swirling, giving the harder coating over the paintwork.
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Re: Full Detail

Post by Musicegbdf » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:37 am

When I picked up my Audi S3 I told the dealer not to touch the paint , just remove the delivery paper, etc . I drove it to a pro detailer and he kept it for three days .
He makes a YouTube video of what he does . Before he started he showed all the scratches and marks on a brand new “premium” brand car .
I never let dealer touch the paint . I top up the detail and at four years old she is showroom condition .
I use the two bucket (with grit guard) , snow foam , drying towel (placed not wiped) . Wheels cleaned with specialist cleaners . Car generally finished with quick detailer. Each wash I will (detail) one panel . Clay and top up the coating . I use mainly G Techniq products . Twice a year I treat the leather and alcantara ( light cream colour) and interior plastics . Once a year wheels off for full clean and recoat the callipers with paint sealant .
My daughter does not bother she just comes for a visit to dad and sure she will do the same with the TRoc .
Some time ago I bought a pro detail pack of autoglym ( trade only) . It cost £50 and included the consumer bag of goodies . The dealer will pay for about 40 mins labour . So the cost to dealer around £70 and charge £450 !!

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