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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by BarryF » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:48 pm

Hawkeye wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:56 pm
BarryF wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:11 pm
When I updated my SD Map card I noticed that it appeared as drive E:, normally SD cards appear as drive D:.
I didn't think much about it at the time, but now I come to think about it, it was a bit strange. :?
Not at all. Depends on the PC used these days and the relevant operating system and whether the disk is partitioned or not. I have a partitioned drive on my PC, and Drive D holds the operating system and application files, SD cards appear as Drive E.

On later (newer) PC's with later operating systems, the hard drive isn't partitioned, so the SD card drive could easily be the "D" drive
Every other SD card, USB stick or external hard drive I've used on this PC usually appears as drive D:, unless the external "drive" is partitioned, in which case it appears as drives D:, E:, etc.
I have another PC with it's hard drive partitioned into C: and D:, I'd be interested to see if the VW SD card appears as drive F: instead of E:.
I still think VW has something hidden on the cards, I've got an SD mirror ulitity which I use for copying Raspberry Pi SD cards, I'll have a mooch around it one of these (rainy) days.
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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Nellybee » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:02 pm

Has anyone tried to update the radio station logos . Tried but it says nothing found on SD card , unsure if you leave the 7 zip file as it is or extract the zip to the SD Card . Used the UK one and also the Europe one from the download site but no luck.

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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by T Roo » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:23 pm

Nellybee wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:02 pm
Has anyone tried to update the radio station logos . Tried but it says nothing found on SD card , unsure if you leave the 7 zip file as it is or extract the zip to the SD Card . Used the UK one and also the Europe one from the download site but no luck.
Extract the zip; should ‘see’ them then. I had to assign them manually after, it wasn’t an automatic update :)

From VW:

How to install the logos on your system:

1. Simply save the file to a directory of your choice with a click on the link below.
2. Unzip the zip file and search for the relevant logos.
3. Copy this to an SD card.
4. Then, connect the storage medium to your infotainment system.
5. Now you can import the desired logos into your device.
6. To do this, tap the Setup button and then tap Sender logos.
7. Now tap the desired station button to which a logo is to be assigned.
8. Select the source on which you saved the image (e.g., SD1) and select the logo.
9. Repeat this process for other logos, and return to the main radio menu by pressing the radio button.
10. The SD card can then be removed.

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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Hawkeye » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:48 am

T Roo wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:23 pm
Nellybee wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:02 pm
Has anyone tried to update the radio station logos . Tried but it says nothing found on SD card , unsure if you leave the 7 zip file as it is or extract the zip to the SD Card . Used the UK one and also the Europe one from the download site but no luck.
Extract the zip; should ‘see’ them then. I had to assign them manually after, it wasn’t an automatic update :)

From VW:

How to install the logos on your system:

1. Simply save the file to a directory of your choice with a click on the link below.
2. Unzip the zip file and search for the relevant logos.
3. Copy this to an SD card.
4. Then, connect the storage medium to your infotainment system.
5. Now you can import the desired logos into your device.
6. To do this, tap the Setup button and then tap Sender logos.
7. Now tap the desired station button to which a logo is to be assigned.
8. Select the source on which you saved the image (e.g., SD1) and select the logo.
9. Repeat this process for other logos, and return to the main radio menu by pressing the radio button.
10. The SD card can then be removed.
Just to add to that not all logos are on the zip file. For ones you may want that are ‘missing’ search for “<station name> Radio logo” followed by VW

So for instance for Heart, search on “Heart radio logo VW”.
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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Impala » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:40 pm

As with everything to do with VW there is confusion compounded by poor VW web sites and tools. For Sat Nav map updates, I have posted some details previously in other threads ... for the benefit of newer forum members who may not have found these, I suggest you start by reading the following posts ;

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1196&start=10#p12148
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1196&start=20#p12235
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1196&start=30#p12563
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1196&start=40#p12578

The bottom line is that DiscoverCare is a typically bad bit of VW software which is slow, unreliable and doesn't provide the latest map data until much later than the standard download site.

I stand by my previous recommendation to do traditional downloads and update the SD card manually. The advantages of doing it this way are threefold;

- It is quicker than using DiscoverCare
- It can be performed in self-contained steps
- Even if you suffer a power cut during any of the steps, you simply repeat that step before moving on the the next

The steps are;

- Backup the existing VW SD card by copying the data to a PC disk, USB disk or memory stick or 3rd party SD card
- Download the new map data (compressed .7z file) to a storage device, eg one of the above.
- Erase your VW SD card. Quick format the card as FAT32, as this is faster than deleting the files
- Open the downloaded .7z file using 7-Zip and extract the new map data your VW SD card

Remember to slide the tab on the SD card to the unlocked position to allow deleting and writing the data, then put it back to locked when finished.

If you suffer a failure during step 4, repeat step 3 and then 4.

If the card doesn't work after updating, repeat steps 2 to 4.

If the card still doesn't work or you find the new version introduces more new issues than it fixes, and you want to revert to your previous version, simply erase the card and then copy your backup data to the card.

The time taken for the backup, download and extraction will depend on the type and speed of the media used to store the backup and download. A PC or USB disk will be quickest, then a USB memory stick and finally an SD card will probably be slowest.


Now to clarify the situation with the latest map version(s);

V12 has indeed been released (there are 2 realeases each year), but DiscoverCare is probably still lagging behind and will do so for weeks or months. Secondly, even on the standard download web site, some of the bundles are still using the older V11 files, while those that have been updated have a variety of software version numbers (1410, 1420 and 1430) depending on the bundle.

Most of the bundles show a date of 11/7/19 and I believe this uses mm/dd/yy format because 2 of the non-European bundles are dated 6/17/19.

Below is a list of the bundles and their current (as at 30 November 2019) filenames (which include the s/w version). I haven't downloaded all of these to confirm that the file names match up to the data they contain. For anyone interested, the part numbers, s/w version and other details of the data can be found in 'dbinfo.txt' located in 'maps\00\nds\' in the 7z files.

To get to the files, first visit https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfo ... download#/ and then select the T-Roc model, either pre or post 2019 will do, as you then select Discover Media. If you then hover the mouse pointer over the Download buttons, the file names should be revealed as shown below.

European All: EU_AS_1430_V12.7z (Note: the web site strangely also labels this as European Bundle 1 !!! )
European Bundle 1: EU1_1410_V12.7z
European Bundle 2: EU2_1410_V12.7z
European Bundle 3: EU3_1420_V12.7z
European Bundle 4: EU_DL1_1420_V12.7z
European Bundle 5: EU_DL2_1420_V12.7z
European Bundle 7: EU_DL3_1420_V12.7z
European Bundle 7: EU_DL4_1310_V11.7z
Non-European Bundle 1: MRM1_1310_V11.7z
Non-European Bundle 2: MRM2_1310_V11.7z
Non-European Bundle 3: MRM3_1420_V12.7z
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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by brid » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:30 pm

Hi Impala,
I assume that you have completed the latest download (V12) 7/11/2019
Could I ask you to comfim if the details on the Info Centre comply with those I have.

I am assuming you updated to the Europe 1 Mapping data.

Version Info
5NA919866G
1310
ECE AS 2020

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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Impala » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:40 pm

Hi Brid, I was hoping to have installed this by now but I've been busy migrating a couple of PCs from Windows 7 to Windows 10 which has meant my systems being unavailable. I'll maybe write the SD card tonight.
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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Impala » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:58 pm

I have now updated my SD card and verified the version displayed in the Infotainment system matches the version details in my previous post and the table below. My SatNav data is now v12, software version 1430 and map version ECE AS 2021. I downloaded the full version, which has a 13.5 GB 7-Zip file and just fits on the 16 GB SD card when decompressed. The other bundles are smaller, so download and decrompress quicker, but you need to choose the best bundle for the countries you might visit. The UK maps are actually in 3 of the smaller bundles, along with different groups of other EU countries. This PDF file has details of all the current bundles ...


I also did a quick check using demo mode for a nearby road which exhibits the vanishing speed limit issue ... sadly, but not surprisingly, it still doesn't show the speed limit.

The version info posted by Brid and Hawkeye in their posts above are both for the previous v11 (1310). It seems Hawkeye nearly got the updated data but then DiscoverCare put him back to v11 ! As I said, DiscoverCare promises a lot but fails to deliver.

The details of the various versions, together with filenames for downloading, are shown in the image below, followed by photos showing my new version info captured from the Infotainment system.

SatNav Version Info.jpg

SatNav1430(1).jpg

SatNav1430(2).jpg

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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by Impala » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:44 am

Using my latest update (v12 as described above) I have just confirmed I can enter B40 1NT or 'NEC Birmingham' and my SatNav can establish routes to either without any issue.

The only way to be sure of the version you are using is to do the download and install manually and forget about DiscoverCare.
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Re: SatNav - new update

Post by brid » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:46 pm

Impala wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:44 am
The only way to be sure of the version you are using is to do the download and install manually and forget about DiscoverCare.
I concur, I have joined the converted now running version 20/21 :D
Why do they do this?
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