Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

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Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Hawkeye » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:34 am

Thoughts? This potentially will damage the performance car market (well, for ones bought after Jan 2022, everyone will want one pre-Jan 2022)

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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Pine Man » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:02 am

Uh oh!!
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by RedRoc » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:11 am

VW will need to get their act together because the speed limits shown on sat nav are more often wrong in a lot of situations.

Other than that, I think it a daft idea...
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Deleted User 925 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:43 am

I'm all for it but as already said, volkswagens satnav data is too inaccurate for this idea to work :roll:
20mph on a 70mph motorway :lol:

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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by twist » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:12 pm

I don’t think this is the right way to do it. I think a mandatory “speeding” tone would be a better idea. A very loud, annoying tone that plays when you’re more than 10% over the current speed limit.

The “speed limiter” thing would work great with fully autonomous vehicles but not ones where a driver still has to make decisions, sometimes very quickly and if there’s something working against the driver then I think that’s dangerous.
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Tricky2 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:38 pm

It's already fitted! Those without cruise it takes it's place and uses the same controls. Those with cruise you can use the assistance menu option to switch between speed control, and speed limit. I've tried it, and it's weird pushing accelerator up and down, and not a damn thing happening.

Thing is, it's mandatory to be FITTED but not mandatory for use.

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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Swsgm30 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:34 pm

Tricky2 wrote:
Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:38 pm
It's already fitted! Those without cruise it takes it's place and uses the same controls. Those with cruise you can use the assistance menu option to switch between speed control, and speed limit. I've tried it, and it's weird pushing accelerator up and down, and not a damn thing happening.

Thing is, it's mandatory to be FITTED but not mandatory for use.

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The Limiter that's fitted is switched on and off by the driver ( who can also set the limited speed to any value, way above the speed limit if need be). In the same way the driver can set any value when activating Cruise Control. I also seem to remember reading that, in the case of needing to accelerate to e.g.overtake you should be able to floor the acellerator pedal to override the system.
My understanding of the 'System' referred to in the link is more of a 'Big Brother' scenario where cars will comply by entering some sort of electronic field that will override any car setting. :?: :?:
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by brid » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:22 pm

I trust it will not limit linked from any of our present systems, however, picture the scene.
New car with limiter doing it,s thing and scores of pre 2022 cars behind screaming at the old dear in at the front in their new toy. A new road rage age doth begin. Oh joy.
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Hawkeye » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:46 pm

Reading through the various articles on this suggests that the mandatory speed limiter will reset as soon as the car is started however it can be overridden by putting your foot flat to the floor. Let me guess as well though that there will be some sort of "tracking" of speeds attained/date/time etc somewhere in the vehicle - big brother watches in more ways than you think, even today.

Basically its another "start/stop" scenario, except that with "start/stop" they have a button whereby you can switch it off.

No doubt as well, they won't need speed cameras, instead there will be sensors in the road which will "read" some sort of car identification tag for those exceeding the speed limit.
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Re: Mandatory Speed Limiter from 2022

Post by Impala » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:11 pm

I haven't read the articles, but who is driving (no pun) this forward ? Is it coming from the EU or the manufacturers. If it's from the EU, then perhaps now that we have left (???) cars sold in the UK could have this disabled, but I suspect there are plenty of anti-car MPs who would welcome this and other big brother devices.
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