[Vernerbongo2]

@Ken Cabrio on all other T-roc's the spare sits as yours does at the moment, no foam and then the toolkit is in a foam holder that wedges in at the side of the spare wheel.

Yours isn't that different at the moment 🤔

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Vernerbongo2 it is the only solution I can see , but I am not that happy with the metal to metal of the rim against the base. The plastic screw used to hold down FOAM , will no reach long enough to secure the spare... only and inch or so out. All it is is a bit of plastic and if they add a piece of wire cut to help lift out the nut covers, I would have thought a spare plastic screw to hold down a weight thousands of times the weight of the FOAM is reasonable to ask for. Seriously think about it , a screw to hold down foam, but the pump that sits in its recess is just a press fit ! German engineering and design was always simple right and strong .....

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Ok after teddy falling out the pram .... I started searching and found this , except mine cost £1.17 +vat to include free delivery as it was a first order in a while . This is shown as just over 12cm long and the one provided to hold down the Foam insert is just under 7cm ! So I have ordered and will confirm its fit in a week when it arrives. As for the wheel to bare recess siting, I have considered popping down to the DIY in search of a sheet of insulating polystyrene and cutting to fit the recess. Wont hold moisture and should cushion the seat. Bloody Chinese shopping and DIY to sort a new car ! LOL

 

[Impala]

You will see in the photo below showing my factory space saver wheel, the foam occupies very little of the spare wheel well and yet it houses the jack, wheel brace and associated bits & pieces.

It's too wet at the moment to work outside to take the wheel out to measure the central peg but you can see a lot of the threaded part extends above the wheel and I have to spin the securing 'nut' down a long way to hold the wheel in place.

I'll try to get a better photo tomorrow and measure the peg, but it looks like my foam insert and tools would fit in to your wheel well, so perhaps the foam insert you have been given may be the wrong part and wrong shape.

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Impala thanks for that, my foam came with the car and held the pump and gunk. There was a recess in the middle for a much smaller wheel....but the 7cm screw in the middle was too short to centre any spare. Question is why not fit the longer one in the first place ...like your one , then it would cover any eventuality.

 

[Rocky53]

I think there are 3 sizes of plastic retaining bolt/screw with thumb wheel.
1) (8W0803899) Fitted to the Cabriolet, retains the foam tool storage.
2) 110mm long (3G0803899E), spare wheel mounting
3) 127mm long (5Q0803899), spare wheel mounting for vehicles with subwoofers.

 

[Impala]

Here are some more photos of my wheel/well, tool holder and centre peg.

The peg is 3G0803899E 11cm long as above, which is way more than is needed with my space saver wheel. The wheel + Tyre diameter ia approx 63cm. The tool holder consists of 2 layer of rigid foam with the wheel brace, security key and puller in the top layer and the jack between top and bottom layers. The entire thing seems to be glued on to the boot floor, so I haven't been able to take it out for photos - AFAIK the layers can be separated and the jack and tools removed after the space saver is removed.

 

[Vernerbongo2]

@Impala I notice your spare is installed front up, mine is back up, the screw thingy is too short to install mine like yours.
I'd need to double check.

@Ken Cabrio does your wheel well have the protective painted tape as in impala's photo?
You mentioned metal to metal (wheel rim to wheel well) , the tape is the only protection other T-roc's with a spare have.

 

[Impala]

@Impala I notice your spare is installed front up, mine is back up, the screw thingy is too short to install mine like yours.
I'd need to double check.

Depends what you mean by front and back.

What you see 'up' in my photo is what would be the 'inside' of the wheel when fitted, or the back to give it another name. The 'outside' or front when the wheel is fitted (ie the side with the yellow paint and speed limit) is down in my photo and can't be seen. What makes you think the front is up in my photo ?

I'm pretty sure I know my backside from my front (or is it elbow) ?

Turning it over would raise the centre, perhaps above the peg, but what you see is what I got when the car was delivered and I believe is the correct orientation. It also has the added advantage of providing a bit of storage within the wheel, where I keep 2 first aid kits and 2 hi-vis jackets as I've done in many previous cars.

 

[Vernerbongo2]

what makes you think the front is up in my photo ?

I'm pretty sure I know my backside from my front (or is it elbow) ?

I stand corrected 🤣

Looking at it on my mobile I thought it was the front but now that you mention the yellow sticker it should have been obvious to me 🤦

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Here are some more photos of my wheel/well, tool holder and centre peg.

The peg is 3G0803899E 11cm long as above, which is way more than is needed with my space saver wheel. The wheel + Tyre diameter ia approx 63cm. The tool holder consists of 2 layer of rigid foam with the wheel brace, security key and puller in the top layer and the jack between top and bottom layers. The entire thing seems to be glued on to the boot floor, so I haven't been able to take it out for photos - AFAIK the layers can be separated and the jack and tools removed after the space saver is removed.

Impala I went out ( in the rain ) as it was killing me to find out if I had a taped floor. It was too wet to take everything out , but as far as I can see I have 3 pieces of material, possibly tape, sprayed the same colour as the recess . they seem to be more triangular in shape than your large square pads. Per haps the new shape uses less material to save money ! lol

 

[Ken Cabrio]

@Impala I notice your spare is installed front up, mine is back up, the screw thingy is too short to install mine like yours.
I'd need to double check.

@Ken Cabrio does your wheel well have the protective painted tape as in impala's photo?
You mentioned metal to metal (wheel rim to wheel well) , the tape is the only protection other T-roc's with a spare have.

Vernerbongo2 Yes there are 3 small triangular pieces in the floor of the wheel well , however are these there to tackle acoustic resonance in the metal area as much as anything else ? I am now investigating acoustic foam to lay in this recess to improve the noise reduction and seat the wheel. Of course this will NOT want to encourage any form of moisture retention, but when you look at this recess and the wooden shelf above it, the space rather reminds me of my acoustic guitars ! As it is a lovely clean new car I don't want to make tacky Heath Robinson type changes so will go slowly.

 

[Chrisb]

Vernerbongo2 Yes there are 3 small triangular pieces in the floor of the wheel well , however are these there to tackle acoustic resonance in the metal area as much as anything else ? I am now investigating acoustic foam to lay in this recess to improve the noise reduction and seat the wheel. Of course this will NOT want to encourage any form of moisture retention, but when you look at this recess and the wooden shelf above it, the space rather reminds me of my acoustic guitars ! As it is a lovely clean new car I don't want to make tacky Heath Robinson type changes so will go slowly.

Another variation, my full size spare ( both alloy and tyre match the car) sat on foam and strapped to stop movement! Would never go on foreign motorways with anything else!😉

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Another variation, my full size spare ( both alloy and tyre match the car) sat on foam and strapped to stop movement! Would never go on foreign motorways with anything else!😉 View attachment 6797

ChrisB will the boot shelf seat with a full size spare in there, or does it sit above its side rests and float ?

 

[Vernerbongo2]

Another variation, my full size spare ( both alloy and tyre match the car) sat on foam and strapped to stop movement! Would never go on foreign motorways with anything else!😉 View attachment 6797

That's exactly the right idea, it works and is hidden by the removable shelf and all at a reasonable cost 😉👌

 

[Chrisb]

ChrisB will the boot shelf seat with a full size spare in there, or does it sit above its side rests and float ?

It fits with about 6mm spare, so tight. I could probably reduce the foam a little to lower but not much point really. Note this is a 17inch wheel!!

 

[Ken Cabrio]

Chrisb yes a 17" would most probably have fitted in the recess of my standard foam insert. The problem as I mentioned to Impala is if you have a smaller spare , besides the ride issues, when you change it and remove your 19" deflated wheel you need to have a recess to fit it for the journey home or to the tyre shop.

 

[Ken Cabrio]

My delivery from China ( Ali Express) arrived today. For the total outlay of £1.17 , including postage because they gave me a discount voucher from the normal £5 ish , I now have a suitable fixing for
my spare wheel. The image of two screws shows the one supplied with the car and the longer is my one I bought. When you think they shipped it to me from China and made money I am sure on £1.17, it gives you an idea of the single item value when buying by the thousand . How silly for so little to not put the longer one in the car to cover all eventualities at sale, let alone the differentiation and stocking at factory.

 

[Impala]

That short fixing looks like it's made for a kiddie car 👶

Now all you have to do is secure the jack and tools.

 

[Ken Cabrio]

They are in cloth bags as supplied with the wheel , and I have them laying in the recess of the wheel along with my warning triangle and first aid kit. I have got some very long black cable ties and securing to the holes in the wheel is possible....but how will I feel when I break down and don't have a knife ?